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Author:  David McGown [ March 27th, 2024, 11:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Holy Crap - Dimmer Switches

Shashi,

You might want to have an electrician out to your house to help trace this and figure out what the problem is. You may have a poor wiring connection, i.e. corroded or oxidized contacts (acting as a semi-conductor or spark gap), that is causing 60Hz radiation as well as HF noise. Years ago, someone from Pepco knocked on my door to let me know that he was driving by with an RF monitor that they use (presumably for detecting power line issues), and was noticing excessive noise or sparking indicative of a bad wiring connection in my house. He explained that this is frequently a cause of electrical fires, so wanted to warn me. I suspect that your probe and speaker cable may be acting as an antenna picking up a similar issue. I could be wrong and it is unrelated, but having someone who knows what they are doing to help trace this down is probably a good thing.

David

Author:  Cogito [ March 29th, 2024, 11:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Holy Crap - Dimmer Switches

This is the noise floor measured by REW.
Look at the 60Hz fundamental and its harmonics. Any ideas?

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Author:  Pelliott321 [ March 29th, 2024, 11:55 am ]
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I think you just have a ground loop. You have a very complex system setup and its going to be very tedious to hunt down problem.
You got to simplify and just start with one amp and one speaker.

Author:  DaveR [ March 29th, 2024, 12:33 pm ]
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Did you try David's suggestion?

dberning wrote:
While the speaker cables, no matter how long and positioned, will not pick up noise that would be reproduced by the speaker. What could happen is that induced RF into the speaker cables could adversely affect your amplifiers and cause them to act badly. If they are no-feedback tube amps, less likely. If they use feedback, either tube or ss, you may have a problem there. You might try to isolate the pick-up location by starting with the amp(s) and removing the interconnects with only the amps on to see if you have the buzz. A shorted input may be good to try as well as an open input. If quiet, then work your way through the system with one component at a time. Good Luck!

Author:  Cogito [ April 8th, 2024, 8:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Holy Crap - Dimmer Switches

Problem is identified and mostly solved.

Replacing the dimmer switches with standard on/off switches reduced the hum picked up by the probe significantly.
Second, turned off the wine cooler in the basement.

With the David McGown's help, I was able to eliminate the hum in couple of amps. There is still a slight hum in one sub channel coming powered by a cheap solid-state amp. Going to replace the amp soon.

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