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 Post subject: 6L6 tubes
PostPosted: September 15th, 2021, 2:37 pm 
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I would like to give 6L6 tubes a try
since I do not need the power of KT88's anymore with my Volti 97db Razz
I can get Mullard reissue's, as well as Tung-Sol pretty cheap
are these any good
any suggestions


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 Post subject: Re: 6L6 tubes
PostPosted: September 15th, 2021, 2:52 pm 
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According to Grover Gardner, the best sounding are the (New Sensor) Genelex KT-66. He has used them in his Modified Musicians Amplifier (modified Williamson design).

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 Post subject: Re: 6L6 tubes
PostPosted: September 15th, 2021, 2:54 pm 
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Thanks I will take a look


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 Post subject: Re: 6L6 tubes
PostPosted: September 15th, 2021, 2:57 pm 
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His experience with other 6L6 types is provided below:

The Sino KT66's sounded coarse to my ears but maybe they needed to break in. I have to go back and give them another listen. Tung-Sol Reissue is just a 6L6GC in a fat bottle, dry and uninvolving in my system. I have not tried the JJ's.

Tung-Sol 6L6G (coke bottle) is a nice tube, not as liquid as the Gold Lion but has a beefy, full sound that's kind of nice. The Tung-Sol reissue 5881 is a nice tube, has a big, sweet sound, but doesn't have the deep soundstage of the Gold Lion. The GrooveTube GT-6L6-R is a surprisingly nice tube, very sweet forward midrange but not as detailed as the Gold Lion. There are so many out there but those are the ones I've tried.

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 Post subject: Re: 6L6 tubes
PostPosted: September 15th, 2021, 3:05 pm 
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a lot of people seem to really like the Gold Lion reissue
They seem to be around $50 each these days, not too bad


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 Post subject: Re: 6L6 tubes
PostPosted: September 15th, 2021, 4:29 pm 
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Pelliott321 wrote:
I would like to give 6L6 tubes a try
since I do not need the power of KT88's anymore with my Volti 97db Razz
I can get Mullard reissue's, as well as Tung-Sol pretty cheap
are these any good
any suggestions

The closest I ever came to the ca. 1950s Genelex KT-66s were the Chinese Golden Dragon KT-66s. The top photo. Highly recommended if you don't have the deep pockets for the real thing.

The real thing being the Genelex KT-66s with the carbon coating on the interior. The bottom photo.

BTW -- if you spend the $$$ for the real thing they're rated for 8,000-hours MTBF at full plate current. Running them at their "sweet spot" of 36-ma should afford you long-term reliability -- and I mean LONG.


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 Post subject: Re: 6L6 tubes
PostPosted: September 15th, 2021, 11:14 pm 
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SoundMods wrote:
Pelliott321 wrote:
I would like to give 6L6 tubes a try
since I do not need the power of KT88's anymore with my Volti 97db Razz
I can get Mullard reissue's, as well as Tung-Sol pretty cheap
are these any good
any suggestions

The closest I ever came to the ca. 1950s Genelex KT-66s were the Chinese Golden Dragon KT-66s. The top photo. Highly recommended if you don't have the deep pockets for the real thing.

The real thing being the Genelex KT-66s with the carbon coating on the interior. The bottom photo.

BTW -- if you spend the $$$ for the real thing they're rated for 8,000-hours MTBF at full plate current. Running them at their "sweet spot" of 36-ma should afford you long-term reliability -- and I mean LONG.


I have a quad of Sino KT66's from TAD (Tube Amp Doctor). They are selected and well matched. They are very nice, with a midrange focus and crisp bass. The Gold Lions are very good but more lush.


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 Post subject: Re: 6L6 tubes
PostPosted: September 15th, 2021, 11:16 pm 
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The Tung-Sol KT66's look like 6L6GC's to me and don't sound very nice--constricted and plain-Jane. The Tung-Sol reissue 5881 is a nice tube.


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 Post subject: Re: 6L6 tubes
PostPosted: September 16th, 2021, 10:36 am 
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Grover Gardner wrote:
The Tung-Sol KT66's look like 6L6GC's to me and don't sound very nice--constricted and plain-Jane. The Tung-Sol reissue 5881 is a nice tube.

Just as a matter of information -- Tung-Sol the company does not exist. The rights to the name was purchased by a Russian tube manufacturer. Any experience I've had with a Tung-Sol wanna-be had been under whelming. My Cary's came with after-market Russian Tung-Sol 6SL7s and they were terrible. Kind of "scratchy and grainy."

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 Post subject: Re: 6L6 tubes
PostPosted: September 16th, 2021, 11:08 am 
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Golden Dragon KT-66s can be found for around $150 for a quad


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