July 1st, 2020, 1:12 pm
July 1st, 2020, 2:46 pm
mix4fix wrote:Do not call them protestors. They lost that right/Right years ago (morally/Constitutionally).
Protestors don't riot, shoot, loot, attack, murder, burn, destroy, vandalize, and whatever else they have done.
July 1st, 2020, 3:17 pm
July 1st, 2020, 4:44 pm
mix4fix wrote:You can see the evidence of the "protestors" in every major city.
Every single one of these riots was over a criminal. Did you research how this latest one performed a home invasion on a pregnant woman?
But, last I checked, counterfitting is a Federal Crime. Destruction of property, private/state/federal, is a crime.
Please read the First Anendment, and how it says "peacefully" assemble.
July 1st, 2020, 5:07 pm
July 1st, 2020, 5:55 pm
David McGown wrote:Shashi,
Deaths are a lagging indicator by two weeks or more. We have not seen the death rate associated with the current level of outbreak yet in those states most impacted.
It doesn't matter if more people end up surviving, if they end up taking up space in the emergency room, then it denies availability and services to those with other life threatening conditions. The whole masking and stay-at-home recommendations are intended to prevent the overload of health services by slowing transmission in the population. It also helps protect the most vulnerable among use from exposure to the virus. It does not do the country any favors to lose vital health workers due to COVID-19 or burn-out, or institute triage to let people die. What happens if I have a heart attack or other health emergency and the emergency rooms are full? We may be over the crisis locally, but no reason why it cannot come back if we loosen up too much.
The fact that this can be passed along by asymptomatic carriers makes this virus insidious. A temperature check is just a rough screening for symptomatic carriers. It means nothing for the asymptomatic in lieu of actual on-the-spot and reliable testing, and even then, there is good percentage false negatives.
If you rely on statistics from states like Florida, who have been manipulating their data to make it appear they are in better shape than they actually are to justify their failed decision to reopen, then maybe the CDC statistics are not so rosy.
People need to stop making this a political issue and think both the immediate and long term health consequence to OTHERS in addition to their own personal risk, which increases significantly as one is older (I will be 65 in October). Do you (metaphorically speaking) KNOW you do not have the virus, or just think you don't have it because you have no symptoms? Can you be sure when you venture out socially among the community.
I am firmly not going anywhere except as necessary for essentials in order to minimize my personal risk. I admit I am very fortunate to have the liberty to do this, in that I am working full time remotely at home, and therefore has not forced me into making the difficult decisions about risking my health showing up physically at work, at a potentially hazardous or high exposure environment just to have income to survive. It is difficult for me to imagine what people like that are going through in their minds, and all I can do is be sympathetic to the decisions they have to make. I know that opening up means those out of work or underemployed will have a chance to work again. But they do so at risk to themselves and others. It is horrible to have to put one's life at risk for a paycheck at a job that is in normal circumstances is relatively risk free. Those like me, basically force those decisions to happen. Online shopping (lifeline for both essential and non-essential products not available with store closures), employs people deemed "essential" in the distribution chain, working long hours, under high stress, and exposure to others who may be ill. I am both increasing their risk, as well as employing them so they can live. It is an ethical dilemma. For the economy to improve, I have to spend, but in doing so, I am both helping and hurting people.
Sorry, this has gotten to be overly long and philosophical, but in short, why take risks when it is not necessary?
David
July 1st, 2020, 6:22 pm
July 1st, 2020, 7:01 pm
July 1st, 2020, 7:33 pm
SoundMods wrote:Is there an end to this!
July 2nd, 2020, 9:27 am