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Author:  mix4fix [ December 20th, 2019, 9:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Driver arrangement on crossovers

All things being the equal, is it better to have two drivers in series or parallel on a crossover?

Example:
Two 16 ohm drivers in parellel equals 8 ohms

or

Two 4 ohm drivers in series equals 8 ohms

Both are 8 ohms load but which is better sonically or electrically?

Author:  Pelliott321 [ December 20th, 2019, 10:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driver arrangement on crossovers

Apple and oranges. Electrically the same, but...... different drivers different sound

Author:  DaveR [ December 20th, 2019, 10:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driver arrangement on crossovers

All things being equal, parallel is always better than series.

Author:  mix4fix [ December 20th, 2019, 11:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driver arrangement on crossovers

Can you explain the reason?

Author:  tomp [ December 21st, 2019, 10:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driver arrangement on crossovers

The main caveat with drivers in series happens at the point of resonance. As the driver approaches resonace the phase changes from leading to lagging and the impedance gets very high. I'm including an image of those parameters of a typical woofer. At that point, because of the high impedance, the amplifier has less control of the driver because it cannot provide much power at the high impedance. In reality that is because at resonance the mechanical energy of the driver dominates and movement of the coil through the gap driven by this mechanical energy turns the driver into a generator and the back EMF or voltage opposes the voltage from the amplifier, thus the high impedance.

The problem occurs when the multiple drivers have slightly different resonance frequencies which is a normal condition due to production variances. Remember that the driver becomes a generator at that point. The net result is that with diminished control from the amplifier, the cone movement from the different drivers gets out of phase with the cones not moving in and out in sync with each other. This results in some cancellation and a dip in the combined response at that point. I have measured this in series woofer combinations at resonance and have also viewed it with a stroboscope. Trying to fix it with EQ does not work because putting more energy into the two drivers at that point only increases their ability to cancel each other.

Other than this situation at resonance I have never seen a problem with putting drivers in series or parallel, ignoring any limitations of the amp used to drive them. If you stay out of the resonance area, either should work.

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Author:  Pelliott321 [ December 21st, 2019, 10:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driver arrangement on crossovers

Thanks Tom
With your statement, why are there so many commercial speakers out there with multiple tweeters, or multiple mid rangers, or multiple woofers. .

Author:  tomp [ December 21st, 2019, 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driver arrangement on crossovers

Paul:

It has to do more with having enough linear volume displacement or power handling capabilities to handle the SPLs in the range where the drivers are operating. Another reason is to achieve different radiation patterns. Using multiple single smaller drivers instead of a single large driver can change the frequency where the drivers start to beam. For example, a 15" driver will start to beam around 300 Hz but two 10" drivers which will give the same linear volume displacement if they have the same XMax will not start to beam until around 500 Hz. You can cross the two 10" drivers up higher and still have an omni radiation pattern which will match the midrange at the bottom end of its operating range. Not having the same radiation pattern at the crossover frequencies can cause imaging problems as you go through that range.

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