DCAudioDIY.com

DC Area Audio DIYer's Community
It is currently October 10th, 2024, 6:37 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: What Am I Missing?
PostPosted: February 19th, 2024, 3:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: December 14th, 2013, 2:19 pm
Posts: 985
Heater supplies. Thought is to use one heater supply. The AC portion would supply a single damper diode at 1A6/6V3. The DC portion, rectified and LDO regulated to ~6VDC, would supply a total of 1A4 load. A portion of that load, 0.66A would be near cathodes close to ground potential. The other portion of the heater load (0.73A) would be near cathodes at ~+150V. So the DC supply would be referenced to ~+70/75V.

Is this workable? That is to ask: must the damper diode supply be from a separate winding, or not? There is no cathode connection to the heater in a damper diode (6BY5GA).

I keep thinking that I'm missing something.....

Stuart


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What Am I Missing?
PostPosted: February 19th, 2024, 4:16 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: February 28th, 2013, 10:38 am
Posts: 1705
As long as the AC side is floating, it shouldn't be a problem. Keep in mind that even though it's the DC side that's at 75vdc reference, the AC side will be elevated too... 6Vdc from a 6.3Vac winding is cutting it pretty close even with an LDO regulator, but that's a whole different issue ;)

Roscoe

_________________
I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What Am I Missing?
PostPosted: February 19th, 2024, 4:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: December 14th, 2013, 2:19 pm
Posts: 985
Thanks Roscoe. Using Schottky diodes gives a little extra cushion for the regs.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What Am I Missing?
PostPosted: February 19th, 2024, 11:05 pm 
Offline

Joined: March 2nd, 2013, 2:43 pm
Posts: 222
Location: Potomac, MD
The voltage breakdown cathode to heater is quite high as in damper service the cathode is elevated and TV sets generally had only one heater supply for all tubes. Furthermore, many were designed for series strings operating directly from the line without an isolating transformer.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What Am I Missing?
PostPosted: February 20th, 2024, 9:12 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: December 14th, 2013, 2:19 pm
Posts: 985
dberning wrote:
The voltage breakdown cathode to heater is quite high as in damper service the cathode is elevated and TV sets generally had only one heater supply for all tubes. Furthermore, many were designed for series strings operating directly from the line without an isolating transformer.


Thanks David. Not an issue here. While the dual damper diode 6BY5GA has a relatively low cathode to heater rating of 475 volts (compared to tubes like the 6AX4), my B+ will only be 250 volts and since I'm referencing the heater supply to ~75 volts, that differential is reduced.

My concerns were whether using a common supply for all those tubes would lead to unwanted signal injection at the most sensitive cathodes.

This is a proposed phono stage. ~50dB gain without SUTs. Both stages are Beta followers with 6DJ8s on top, BC558 as the "Beta" component and a 1st stage gain tube of 6GK5, 2nd stage 12AT7 (subject to change). Passive RIAA in between stages.

I'll post a schematic once it's finalized.

Stuart


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 13 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group