DCAudioDIY.com

DC Area Audio DIYer's Community
It is currently April 12th, 2021, 12:43 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 107 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 7, 8, 9, 10, 11  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: March 16th, 2021, 5:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: February 28th, 2013, 3:31 pm
Posts: 1496
If you are going to spend some money on whole house music, take a look at the Dayton Audio DAX88. I'm testing it now and it is mighty impressive.

Tom

https://www.parts-express.com/Dayton-Au ... er-300-985


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: March 16th, 2021, 5:56 pm 
Offline

Joined: March 12th, 2013, 11:12 am
Posts: 655
I don't disagree.


Jim G wrote:
I'm not so sure that's fair, Pete. The Pi4 isn't a high fidelity component, but it's perfectly acceptable for a secondary system. The streamer he compared it to cost 4X as much, and he didn't talk about how the Node sounds on it's own dac (like crap). Now, the Node gets high marks from me on it's digital output (though it's only s/pdif) as a dedicated streamer, but now you're talking about a 8X or more increase in price from a Pi4 and cheapie dac. Anybody who's looking for a $100 streamer isn't likely to pair it with a $500-$1k dac, or expect it to sound as good as a $1.5k-$2k streamer/dac combo.

He also never mentioned usb cables. As most who have experimented know the digital cable could be the most important cable in your system.

I think the Pi4 is a good cheap Roon endpoint that sounds fine in a non-audiophile system or headphone system if mated to a good usb cable and reasonably priced dac.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: March 16th, 2021, 5:57 pm 
Offline

Joined: March 12th, 2013, 11:12 am
Posts: 655
:thumbup:

David McGown wrote:
To add to Jim's comment, I think the RPi4 is also perfect for endpoints for remote systems through the house. Yes, in the main rig you want to have a nice endpoint, but for remote location using a cheap (but good quality) DAC into a small system, you cannot beat the utility and sound for the money. Why pay $500 per node (and in some cases still need a DAC) when you can get a cheap Pi and a Schitt Modi (or comparable $100-$200 DAC from Topping or others) into a little integrated amplifier and bookshelf/desktop speakers, and you can have a really nice and enjoyable setup.

David


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: March 16th, 2021, 8:49 pm 
Offline

Joined: March 12th, 2013, 11:12 am
Posts: 655
Jim,
Care to mention a few of the USB cables you have liked? I have only listened to a few and don't really know how they stack up against all the other cables out there.



Jim G wrote:
I'm not so sure that's fair, Pete. The Pi4 isn't a high fidelity component, but it's perfectly acceptable for a secondary system. The streamer he compared it to cost 4X as much, and he didn't talk about how the Node sounds on it's own dac (like crap). Now, the Node gets high marks from me on it's digital output (though it's only s/pdif) as a dedicated streamer, but now you're talking about a 8X or more increase in price from a Pi4 and cheapie dac. Anybody who's looking for a $100 streamer isn't likely to pair it with a $500-$1k dac, or expect it to sound as good as a $1.5k-$2k streamer/dac combo.

He also never mentioned usb cables. As most who have experimented know the digital cable could be the most important cable in your system.

I think the Pi4 is a good cheap Roon endpoint that sounds fine in a non-audiophile system or headphone system if mated to a good usb cable and reasonably priced dac.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: March 16th, 2021, 10:11 pm 
Offline

Joined: February 28th, 2013, 3:31 pm
Posts: 315
Naturally, we've had the most success with cables that appear to be no longer available, YFS and Kingrex. The 2 currently available options that have performed the best were Curious Cables Evolved and a JCat cable, though I forget the model. Charlie could provide you the model name and possibly have a couple to let you compare to what you're using.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: March 16th, 2021, 10:17 pm 
Offline

Joined: February 28th, 2013, 3:31 pm
Posts: 315
None are likely the best available, in that we're sampling in the $200-$300 range though Charlie tried one Cardas and a Synergistic Research cables recently that really didn't fair well.


Last edited by Jim G on March 16th, 2021, 11:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: March 16th, 2021, 10:32 pm 
Offline

Joined: June 4th, 2013, 2:39 pm
Posts: 305
I've tried quite a few. My pal Jim turned me on to Triode Wire Labs interconnects, and I fell in love. Clean, focused, coherent, not a hair out of place--but with plenty of color and dynamics. I tried his USB cable and it has been in the system for almost a year now. Same thing--clean, focused, totally coherent presentation, nothing jumps out except the music. I have "The Dongle" because my Allo USBridge Sig sits right on top of the DAC. If that's all you need, it's a great deal for $150.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: March 17th, 2021, 10:12 am 
Offline

Joined: March 12th, 2013, 11:12 am
Posts: 655
Thanks. I have an extra WireWorld UltraViolet that you are welcome to try out at some point.



Jim G wrote:
Naturally, we've had the most success with cables that appear to be no longer available, YFS and Kingrex. The 2 currently available options that have performed the best were Curious Cables Evolved and a JCat cable, though I forget the model. Charlie could provide you the model name and possibly have a couple to let you compare to what you're using.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: March 17th, 2021, 10:13 am 
Offline

Joined: March 12th, 2013, 11:12 am
Posts: 655
Thanks Grover. That length would work since my the components are close (different shelves but about 10" apart).


Grover Gardner wrote:
I've tried quite a few. My pal Jim turned me on to Triode Wire Labs interconnects, and I fell in love. Clean, focused, coherent, not a hair out of place--but with plenty of color and dynamics. I tried his USB cable and it has been in the system for almost a year now. Same thing--clean, focused, totally coherent presentation, nothing jumps out except the music. I have "The Dongle" because my Allo USBridge Sig sits right on top of the DAC. If that's all you need, it's a great deal for $150.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: March 18th, 2021, 6:15 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: January 13th, 2016, 9:14 pm
Posts: 582
The Dave Elledge PI Audio Group USB cable is also a great sounding USB Audio cable. Got one with split data and power so I could use a clean 5VDC supply to power external devices. Used it with a 12VDC AGM battery and 5V regulator setup I built for awhile with nice results.

Dave and Pete from TWL are friends.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 107 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 7, 8, 9, 10, 11  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group